Namecheap charged my card, didn't deliver the domain, then upped price by 200x
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·October 25, 2024ttoinou
GoDaddy also never gave me the domain I tried to buy. What is legally bonding them over delivering their promises ? What can we do ?
It's like calling an Uber, agreeing on the price, and then having the driver increase the fare by 200x while you're already in the back of the car.
belval
> Apparently, this domain was owned by a seller who listed the domain under Namecheap's 'Buy Now' tool, which according to NameCheap, is only intended for fixed price, non-auction sales.
Perhaps I am an asshole, but seems like they sold their domain for $31, you bought it for $31 and that's that. Good on you to offer $3900 but for $8000 I would pay some lawyer to put them on notice.
IncreasePosts
Don't businesses need to honor prices that they advertise, unless there is some clear indicator that it is a mistake? (Speaking about American businesses and American consumer protection laws here)
msephton
Sadly this is all too familiar in the world of specialist TLDs. I had it with a fairly short word domain name. The registrar cancelled my order, even though it was listed in their system at a specific price that I paid. I just don't think they check the data of what they're listing and instead choose to just cancel any orders that they can't fulfill.
gottorf
That's too bad; I'm a fan of Namecheap as well. This sounds like a breakdown in process. I hope you at least get your $31 back, even if you aren't able to buy the domain for that amount.
Pricing mistakes do happen, and Namecheap as an intermediary here (instead of being the actual seller of the domain) is in a hard place to honor that mistake.
SoftTalker
Mistakes happen, but the process is facilitated by Namecheap and it's their name on the banner.
It would cost them relatively nothing to honor the $31 price and eat the loss, or at least the $3,900 price. If the domain holder is the one jerking them around they should be banned from using Namecheap to sell any other domains unless they honor their original listed price.
DidYaWipe
Namecheap has unfortunately decided to start screwing people and relying on inertia to keep bilking them.
There was a post on here last year or so about how they blamed ICANN for a fee increase, but it turned out that Namecheap was just jacking people for most of it. An alleged rep joined the thread and tried to excuse it by pointing people to an alternate "budget" service that they launched... but of course (IIRC) doesn't allow you to move your domains to directly.
sabedevops
The seller should be banned under the Namecheap TOS. Furthermore, Namecheap should offer this buyer assistance and credit towards a future purchase of a domain as a good will gesture.
andrewinardeer
Your level-headed and reasonable position clearly indicates you are not Namecheap management material.
lmaoguy
get with your state attorney generals office, this is bait and switch and it is highly illegal.
yurimoreno
I've been a customer there for years, too. Any suggested alternatives?
exolymph
You need to escalate this to the support tier where people are allowed to use their brains. Possibly writing to their legal department would do the trick?
paige_d
Hm, interesting idea to consider. I definitely don't want to come off as litigious. I have no interest in threatening anyone, I just want this all to be resolved and to get my domain name.
mbo
To quote patio11's "Identity Theft, Credit Reports, and You":
> You want to communicate with the bank in a manner which suggests that you’re an organized professional who is capable of escalating the matter if the bank does not handle it themselves. [...] Mean words cannot hurt a bank. Threats cannot hurt a bank. Paper trails, though, are terrifying to regulated institutions. Your bank’s customer support representatives are taught to evaluate whether someone looks like they’re competent and collecting a paper trail. If they are, the CS rep is supposed to stop touching the case immediately and instead escalate them to a supervisor or to the legal department.
paige_d
This post made it to the front page, but it looks like it's been removed and isn't being shown. Would anyone happen to know why that is? Assuming it's because I created a new account to post this, but I'd hope that my post wouldn't be completely deranked just because of that?
yodon
Controversial posts are automatically downranked, where controversial means lots of upvote/downvote wars over comments on the post.
If people disagree with each other about your topic, that increases the odds people behave badly when discussing it. HN's algorithm is designed to encourage good discussions, so the post drops in rank.
paige_d
Huh. Interesting. Thank you - I didn't know that. I can no longer find this post at all unless I go through my profile, so I figured it was manually removed/downranked.
Looking through the comments I don't see anything that strikes me as terribly controversial, so now I'm curious about what's being detected...
lysace
What did their customer service tell you when you contacted them? Edit: after the experience told here.
msephton
It's in the comment
lysace
Before a post like this, I would like to see that the poster has first made their complaint to the company and offered them a chance to make it right. I don't see that here.
And then there's the fact that the poster is using a 1 hour old HN account with zero history to establish their credibility.
paige_d
It's a reasonable question. I've been on HN since 2019, but can't remember my old password and I guess I never added an email so I'm unable to recover the account.
To answer your original question: not much. They've claimed that the $31 price I paid was a 'glitch.' They said that while they understood it's frustrating, they won't do anything to remedy the situation besides refund me my $31. They said their refund process takes ten business days. It's been well over that and no refund in sight. But to be honest, I'd much rather get access to the domain I bought than a refund.
Their most recent message to me was asking if I want to proceed with buying the domain at the new $8000 price. Since I guess I have unwittingly been forced into a negotiation even though I used 'Buy Now' and the original funds I paid have already left my bank account, I don't have any faith that Namecheap won't allow the seller to continue to ratchet up the price.
gamblor956
You bought a domain where the price ($31) was listed in error. As the $3900 charge never went through there was never a purchase at that price.
It's not clear what happened, but Namecheap does not owe you anything and there are a plethora of court cases to back them up on that.
paige_d
Nowhere in my post was I trying to make any sort of legal argument.
I purchased the domain at $31. They claimed this was a glitch and refused to honor the price they charged me. They then said the 'real price' was $3900. Once I agreed to pay this, the price then magically ratcheted up to $8000. At no point was I ever made aware that I was involved in any sort of negotiation. I bought the domain as a 'Buy now' and in my documented conversations with the support agent, they said I could proceed with purchasing it at $3900. Not once was I ever informed that I was now involved in an auction-style negotiation where my agreement to pay the $3900 was going to be viewed as merely a bid vs an agreed upon price.
Do you think the seller would have jacked the price up to $8000 had Namecheap not revealed my interest and intent in buying? Absolutely not. Now I have no leverage or negotiating power since Namecheap revealed my hand to the seller.
If it weren't for the alleged glitch, I could've just bought the $3900 domain as-is and I'm pretty sure it'd be active in my account right now vs the situation I'm now embroiled in.
Legality aside, Namecheap really screwed me over.
As far as Namecheap not owing me anything: really? They, at the bare minimum, owe me a refund of the $31 I paid two weeks ago for the domain they still haven't delivered to me.
Buyer beware if you're looking to purchase a domain on Namecheap.
I've been eyeing a .co domain for a while, but it was pretty pricey at $3900. I thought it over for a while, decided I wanted to go through with the purchase.
To my luck, I see that Namecheap is having a 'birthday sale' and the price has been marked down to $31. I was ready at that point to buy it for $3900, but hell yeah, I'll definitely take it for $31. I click the 'Buy Now' button, my credit card is charged, and I even see the domain in my account. I'm unable to manage/setup the domain, but that's ok, I didn't need it right away.
Eleven days later after my purchase, I get an email from Namecheap support saying the $31 price was a mistake and the actual price is $3900. Ugh. This is annoying, but again, I really wanted the domain so I agreed to pay the $3900. The support agent asks if I'm ready to proceed with the purchase and I say yes.
I don't hear back for three days. When I do, the support agent tells me the $3900 price is invalid and the new, 'actual price' is $8000.
Mind you, this entire time, I can see the domain name in my account and my credit card had been charged the $31.
Apparently, this domain was owned by a seller who listed the domain under Namecheap's 'Buy Now' tool, which according to NameCheap, is only intended for fixed price, non-auction sales. How is it fair then that I'm being forced into an extortionary negotiation post-sale, after I've already paid money, the transaction has been posted in my bank account, and the seller has been made aware of my interest? Because the domain was listed as a fixed price 'Buy Now' and not an auction, I expected to be able to make a straightforward purchase and receive the domain I paid for. Instead, I've been forced into haggling with a seller that I now have no leverage with because Namecheap revealed my interest and intent to buy and is then allowing the seller to try to negotiate with me retroactively.
Does Namecheap have no responsibility to facilitate a fair, transparent transaction? It's like calling an Uber, agreeing on the price, and then having the driver increase the fare by 200x while you're already in the back of the car.
I've been a loyal customer of Namecheap for years. I always thought they were the good guys of the domain world. To say I'm utterly disappointed is an understatement and I'd advise anyone buying a domain, especially a premium one, to reconsider using Namecheap.